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| Posted by rhm_74 nikto.net 4/28/2004 12:50:59 play online chess |  Subject: Stone Cutters - Team Page 1Message: Team chat. Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down? We do! We do! Who leaves Atlantis off the maps? Who keeps the martians under wraps? We do! We do! Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? We do! We do! Who robs the cave fish of their sight? Who rigs every Oscars night? We do! We do! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/10/2004 12:10:28 play online chess | yup Message: stone cutters...cuttin stones. with max power, you strap in and feel the G's!!!! |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 5/10/2004 13:38:23 play online chess | timeouts Message: Hi, Stone cutters : it rocks! - Hey, it is great to have a page in the forum... - Since the ice is already broken, it is less intimidating to write a message. - About timeouts: I noticed that they often occur in league matches -- and sometimes in tournament matches --, but i never saw a timeout for a team match. Seems that most players care more about their team than their own matches. eric |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/11/2004 13:30:16 play online chess | team timeouts Message: yeah i dont see too many team timeouts all though it happens sometimes. i have only had it happen to me once so far on this site. quite a little win streak you are on eric!! keep it up man! if anyone has any suggestions for me against lasvegasjack in the game where I am black, I am in a bit of a bind. nice win for tony just a few mins ago! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/11/2004 14:41:35 play online chess | cheaters Message: I have been informed by someone that it is considered cheating to help you team members out on the public forum in their matches, so disregard my previous message about my game. i will handle it myself. sorry about that. |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 5/12/2004 06:06:08 play online chess | helping team members Message: Maybe it is sad that it is considered cheating, because that would be real team play, wouldn't it? - I already did some analysis of a match that was going on for another player (not a team match) -- is that considered cheating too? |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/12/2004 06:30:56 play online chess | dunno Message: it prally is if you tell the other player you did that... i dont think its a big deal though, as long as its not like a team wide conspiracy on the public chat board. i can def understand why people would consider it cheating. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/12/2004 09:44:02 play online chess | elo rating Message: we may not be ranked very high on the overall +/- yet, but with our crazy opening run, we are ranked in 24th place for our elo rating. hey rhm_74, do you know exactly how that rating works? I am not sure. |
| Posted by rhm_74 nikto.net 5/12/2004 09:58:52 play online chess | Elo Rating and cheating Message: Ever since they changed the system I have been unclear on how it works for teams. There were several posts on it. I will look into it. As far as cheating goes. Here is the text direct from the Gameknot FAQ. Q21: What is considered cheating? How to report cheaters? A: It's quite simple -- you can not use anything besides your own brain, and you can not consult anyone besides yourself. That includes chess programs, chess engines or chess computers, your friends, colleagues etc. etc. Chess books and game/move databases are allowed (as they are permitted in correspondence chess too). Feel free to analyze your games with chess engines or discuss them with your friends after the game is over, but not while the game is still in progress. If you suspect someone is cheating, please contact webmaster with a formal complaint. Don't forget to include specific details of why you think someone is cheating. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/13/2004 09:28:45 play online chess | yup Message: that looks pretty clear to me. Mattingly! I thought I told you to shave those sideburns! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/13/2004 13:38:30 play online chess | hahaha Message: sup cuts, if any of you want to see something funny, go look at my past games draw against wnp213, its a team game and i beat him in the first one, so it makes it extra sweet. he fell for my trap, love it when they do that. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/13/2004 13:40:36 play online chess | bunny Message: i would also like to welcome bunny over from rollin stoned. nice to have him with us!! peace |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 5/13/2004 20:13:41 play online chess | re: hahaha Message: A truly surprising move -- wnp213 must have thought: that's a blunder... to give a Rook like that... for no reason ?? !!! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/14/2004 06:21:21 play online chess | Re: hahaha Message: yeah, i bet he was sooooo mad when that little message started flashing and the game wasnt up anymore, hahahaha. i almost wrote him a little note, but decided to be corgial about it. |
| Posted by bertoq nikto.net 5/17/2004 18:55:00 play online chess | teams/advice/cheating Message: It's weird, but I am torn over this whole thing. I play to try and get better. I tend to lose games through blunders, either mid or end game. why? books are allowed and I can find pretty much any opening and read about it and see many examples/variations. If I do this with on-line books, is it cheating? On the other hand, when I play over the board, I admit it more difficult to be confident about a move in lines/variations I don't play often. Gameknot, though, offers a range of tactics one can't employ over the board; for example, this guy that has kicked my butt three straight recently challenged me again in league, and it kinda frosts me. So, I take full time and research best I can time allowed to find the best move. He'll probably wipe me again. He likes the London system, which I know little about. He's also stronger in the endgame, so I would take a draw. I like mini-tournaments to explore openings I don't like to play against or don't often get to play. Perhaps we could do a London system mini thematic? I'll do an invitational for the team if there is interest. Then we can learn as a team "within the rules." :-) |
| Posted by bertoq nikto.net 5/17/2004 19:35:06 play online chess | team invite thematics Message: I've started two; four slots in each available. One is 1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 and the other is 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bf4 send me a note if you want in. Cheers. |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 5/18/2004 06:51:31 play online chess | Re:teams/advice/cheating Message: On-line books are allowed, no? Else, we could just print the part we want and what would they say? I use a text viewer to view books and don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. Gameknot itself rely on the PGN format, which is made for viewing. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/18/2004 07:10:48 play online chess | books Message: i think that if you use online books, its more research than cheating. i would view cheating as having the whole team looking into your game and giving advice over the public forum. thats it. and i would like to join your minitourneys, but i have to wait until i finish one first, i am maxed out right now. ill hit you up when i have. shouldnt be too long. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 5/26/2004 13:14:55 play online chess | bored at work Message: hey, if any of you live on the east coast and are as bored at work as I am, send me a challange and we can play some chess to pass the time. also, if i am loading you down with too many team games, shoot me a message and let me know what you want your limit to be, I will actually write it down this time. i think eric told me he only wanted 6 max, is that right? peace, morrow519 "oh boy, sleep, thats where I'm a viking!" -RW |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 5/26/2004 16:41:41 play online chess | max team games Message: What I meant was that I would always be available for at least 6 matches. For now, I set the max to 10, so I can take 2 or 4 new matches if you wish. - About challenges: sometimes I play on www.freechess.org when I want to have a real-time match. There are lots of stats, and tournaments too. |
| Posted by doctor nikto.net 6/04/2004 16:41:16 play online chess | just to note my appearance Message: hi guys! i just joined your team (our now). i'm actually new at GK, but started rather good i think. previously i joined the "--for USSR--" team because i was born in that nonexistent country. but i'v been a member just for one day. the reason? the reason is they lost a huge number of games by timeouts. no matter how hard do you think and how much do you respect your team due if somebody is loosing by timeout. hope it is not the case here. also i would notice a good captain. he's doing well. that's why i hope we are able to go ahead. i'm gonna invite also a couple of good players to make us better in rating. Also (it's to the captain mainly) i think we have to put some complete games (especially lost ones) to the discussion here. It would be useful. So, nice to meet you! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/08/2004 07:11:12 play online chess | stone cutter update. Message: sup cutters, and sup to our new members: jteam, stoneghost, sosyal and the good doctor. we had a little lull after our original bad a** win streak to open the team. but now that seems to have passed as we are back up even higher to +29, which is around 50th place on the team list. Our elo rating is even better, last I checked we were up in 34th place there. eric2004 is still undefeated, (perfect 7-0), so he wont be posting any lost games up here since he doesnt have any. In addition to eric: bunny, stoneghost and bertok are all undefeated as well so far. In case you havent noticed, smchawk and I are well in the negatives. There is a reason for this, we agreed to take the hit in the begining with some hard games in order for the rest of you to get some easy wins. I think it worked out well so far. Some of the other teams are taking really stupid challanges against us, as a result, evylrx and cotton are taking fools down and they are tied with eric at +7. which is well above smchawk and my losses. So keep it up guys, first person to +10 gets their name on the stone cutter wall of fame! and by that I mean the team description hahaha. peace, morrow519 "Hi I'm Troy Mclure, you may remember me from such self help videos as Smoke Yourself Thin, and Get Confident, Stupid!" --The late P.H. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/08/2004 07:13:17 play online chess | lost games Message: I dont think posting some lost completed games would be cheating, so if you have one where someone pulled some crazy move on you, or if you have one that you think other people can learn from, go ahead and lay it open for discussion. arrr peace, morrow519 |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/08/2004 07:16:24 play online chess | forgot one thing Message: sorry to keep posting stuff and taking up room, but I forgot to mention that on June 2nd, the team finished 15 games in one day. thats alot of games, but the sweet part is that we went 13-2 that day, a +11 swing!! nice nice. |
| Posted by bertoq nikto.net 6/08/2004 20:10:45 play online chess | takin' a thumpin' Message: I'm getting handled pretty well right now, but I don't mind. I like playing stronger players, and it would help more if I analyzed my games more, but time is stretched thin... I'll win a few eventually. Oh, and it's bertoq --- you know, "beer talk." :-) |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/09/2004 07:03:13 play online chess | brews Message: yeah, you lost 2 yesterday, but its all good, i finally broke my losing streak and mikothedubber won two games this morning so we are back up to +29. sorry about the misspelling, with your vivid description, i wont ever forget again, haha. peace |
| Posted by bertoq nikto.net 6/11/2004 13:45:08 play online chess | no problem Message: I got a pair of draws against "obviously," who has a rank in the sixteen hundreds. No points, but no losses. :-) |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/14/2004 06:29:06 play online chess | weekend Message: nice weekend everyone, we have crossed +30. Keep it up! peace "Maybe I do son, maybe I do..." - H.S. |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 6/15/2004 12:00:04 play online chess | mildly funny Message: www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4023&n=2 |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/17/2004 15:44:35 play online chess | simpsons quotes Message: seriously people, when you see the simpsons quotes on this board, please please, please don't commit suicide.... I need you to win chess games here! hahahaha, "I want to make him my new executive vice president!" --M.B. |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 6/19/2004 15:20:55 play online chess | poll Message: a slightly higher rated player from another team wants to offer me two quick draws. from a team rating perspective is it better if i accept them or play both games out? |
| Posted by rkardell nikto.net 6/20/2004 08:57:01 play online chess | re: poll Message: Good question sosyal. I have a related observation. I have had more than once a MUCH higher rated player playing in a regular game in which neither of us has an obvious (to me) advantage abruptly resign the game. Some of this is very obviously sandbagging, as a quick check of the stats of that player (shall I name him here???) shows that in all games he wins about 60%, but in team games he's closer to 85%. He has a high number of resignation losses in regular games to considerably lower players. The main point is he has a substantially lower rating for team matchups than I believe he warrants. Perhaps we could keep an internal list of players we "suspect" of sandbagging? |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 6/21/2004 09:42:07 play online chess | captains input Message: sup cutters, very interesting comments. sosyal, for you, and i see that you already took the dudes offer, its however you feel. If you feel like you cant beat him in one game for sure and the other one you might have a chance of beating him, then you should play them out. otherwise, its up to you really, it doesnt advance us, but it doesnt hinder us either. + i tend to try to get most of our positive points out of our lower rated players, so i usualy hope for the higher ones to at least split against their hard opponents. rkardell: very interesting post. I always look at the other players statistics before I accept a challange, and I judge that way whether we should come out on top or not from the challange as a whole. sometimes its hard to tell from them if the player is scandalous like that, but I can definately see why heads do that. I think its a great idea to have an internal list. I you are playing someone that ends up being way way better than their rating, please message me their name so that I can not set you all up with them anymore. damn scandalous teams. Just so that you know, I am pretty good at catching that, but not great, i probably decline about 80% of all challanges that come up for us. peace guys keep on cuttin stones, morrow519 "Pray for Mo Jo..." M.J. |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 6/22/2004 08:20:46 play online chess | Message: actually i'm playing the games out. we'll see how it goes. hopefully I dont end up with two nice doughnuts : ) |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 7/08/2004 10:33:30 play online chess | June team update Message: Sup cutters, Since I am a statistics geek and I am bored at work, I went through all of our June games and compiled the stats. We did pretty well, over all we went 63-52-8, a +11 score. Very nice job everyone. I also went through each cutter individually and got their monthly scores. They are as follows: 1: stoneghost, 6-0. +6. 2: theoriginalbk, 8-3. +5. 3: cottoncandi, 6-3. +3 If you were unlucky enough to face stoneghost in June you lost. The rest: ((smchawk: 5-8-1.)) ((eric2004: 1-0.)) ((tonyjot: 5-4.)) ((mikothedubber: 3-1)) ((elv8rx7: 5-6.)) ((rkardell: 6-6-1)) ((rhm_74: 6-6)) ((bunny69: 4-2-1)) ((bertoq: 0-2-2)) ((morrow519: 5-4)) ((thejteam: 1-5-1)) ((doctor: 1-1-2)) ((sosyal: 1-1)) My thanks to smchawk, bertoq and thejteam for taking on some really hard matches for the team. It worked though, +11 is a sweet score. If we do that every month we will be at the top of the charts in no time. peace guys, take it easy, cap morrow519 |
| Posted by doctor nikto.net 7/08/2004 11:25:27 play online chess | Message: hehe... good stats! i did not really good in june mainly because of slow opponents. but now i hope the results are coming. actually i restricted myself to the team and tournaments games. now i can play up to 20 team games simultaneously, so feel free to include me to any challenges. Good luck to everybody! |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 7/09/2004 07:29:00 play online chess | bring em on Message: i'm back and ready to resume my chess addiction... keep the games comin.. vacation was fun.. you havent lived until you've seen the simpsons dubbed in hungarian and german. |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 7/13/2004 13:09:09 play online chess | new member Message: I would like to welcome lovejen onto the team, a right jolly old simpsons fan from the UK. And sorry guys, but its a dude and not a hot chick as the name would imply. hahaha. Nice upswing as of late, I think we are like 13-1-1 in the past 15 games. I've never seen simpsons in german or hungarian, must sound pretty crazy. I have seen it dubbed into French and Canadian French, (very different). They spit the jokes out much faster. I will try to give you some more team games there sosyal, i will send out some lovejen/sosyal challanges today. peace, capt morrow519 |
| Posted by lovejen nikto.net 7/14/2004 05:28:34 play online chess | being new Message: i actually really like the simpson's, althought the newer series' aren't too good. well, a quote from the stonecutters episodes is... release the stone of shame....!!!! homer cheers, put of the stone of celebration!!!!!!!!! homer sighs. i like the political stuff too, like from the who shot mr burns, when Troy Mclure, explaining the alternative plots says about the simpson DNA and you'd have to be mad to ignore the SIMPSON DNA! lol, for low brow, it would be when homer is signing autographs and karl comes up and homer says "Name?" he goes,"Homer, we've worked together for 15 years!" homer goes "Name?" he says "karl" (Homer writes on the photo and hands it to him) karl says "hey i wanted your name not mine!" Homer says take it or leave it..( looks down at the name)....Karl" erm, i think my rating is inflated, i'd feel more at home about 1380 really, i think i'm setting myself up for a fall letting is get this high. reasons to join stone cutters, english, ave player rating similar to mine and quite a decent side. i know you said questions but i can only find one previous to "answer my questions and simpsons quote (para)" so i assume you want me to answer "so you want to join the stonecutters?" Yes. lol |
| Posted by eric2004 nikto.net 7/18/2004 06:04:06 play online chess | draw Message: I'm relieved. I just got a draw against plozy -- it's nice since I was losing this game and I think he was tired of trying to force the center. How annoying it is when the other player doesn't want to resign! |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 7/21/2004 11:56:37 play online chess | erics draw Message: did he just offer you one? that was pretty dumb of him since he was totally winning. oh well better for us then! hahah |
| Posted by doctor nikto.net 7/23/2004 12:57:43 play online chess | Message: Hello everybody! I got serious car eccident last week and simply had no possibility to postpone my games. I'm really sorry for that. I'm gonna try to do all the best to get things better. sorry guys |
| Posted by morrow519 nikto.net 7/26/2004 07:55:13 play online chess | doc Message: no need to apologize, thats a pretty damn good reason. anyway its all good because so far this month even with your timeouts included we are +13, so we are still rocking it. Lets get a nice push for the end of the month and I will post the monthly report on the 2nd of august. hopefully at least a few of your team games will be reinstated, hope this site isnt that cut throat. peace |
| Posted by bertoq nikto.net 8/10/2004 19:23:40 play online chess | in the plus column! Message: I may have turned the corner... go cutters! |
| Posted by rhm_74 nikto.net 9/13/2004 07:16:35 play online chess | Charlick Gambit Tournament Message: Hey Hey cutters Anyone rated 1150-1450 please come and join me in playing this odd gambit. gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=4615 Initial Position: 1. d4 e5 Rating range: 1150-1450 Time controls: 3d + 1d < 5d |
| Posted by rhm_74 nikto.net 9/14/2004 05:50:01 play online chess | Gmail Message: Hey cutters If anyone needs or wants a gmail account send me a message. If you don't know what gmail is check this out. gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html |
| Posted by smchawk nikto.net 9/27/2004 09:23:34 play online chess | Finally not bringing up the rear! Message: I am proud to say I no longer have the worst team score. Now, time to make a move into the positives. . . |
| Posted by thejteam nikto.net 9/27/2004 20:36:19 play online chess | RE: Finally not bringing up the rear Message: I feel sorry for the pathetic sap thats taking your place. Who is that complete loser? Let's see, its.... well... umm... okay.... move along. Nothing to see here..... |
| Posted by rkardell nikto.net 10/05/2004 06:42:57 play online chess | 1300 Barrier! Message: Woo hoo! I finally broke the 1300 point barrier! Probably won't last long, my rating bounces around like a ping pong ball! :) |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 10/14/2004 14:34:13 play online chess | sandbaggers Message: Several of my opponents have had their ratings jump by 100 pts or more during my matches with them, suggesting they were using their lower rating to take advantage of team matchups. Can we please be on the lookout for sandbagging teams? Try not to include players in challenges who show suspicious declines in their ratings. That being said, I don't mind being matched up against higher rated players, as long as their ratings are accurate. Takin it for the team, sosyal |
| Posted by sosyal nikto.net 10/14/2004 14:35:43 play online chess | by the way Message: Am I the only one who finds that girl in the free screensavers ad distracting? |
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