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ketchuplover 13 ( +1 | -1 )
opening novelty I've been told I've played a novelty in the alekhine's defense opening. Does anyone here know how to get it copyrighted? Thanks :)
perfessor 13 ( +1 | -1 )
The generally accepted method is to beat a few grandmasters in tournaments, preferably big ones. I'll keep my eyes out for news of the "Ketchup Variation". :)
ccmcacollister 24 ( +1 | -1 )
-OR- You could see Eric Schiller about publishing that ...
Be sure to tell him I sent you :) :) :)
He'll appreciate that I'm sure; we go way back. Way, way way way ....
ketchuplover 9 ( +1 | -1 )
Beat a grandmaster? ok <grabs hammer> :)

Thanks I'll check out the Shiller suggestion shortly :)
cascadejames 13 ( +1 | -1 )
Why? Are you planning to collect a royalty each time someone plays your variation? And BTW, how do you know that it is truly novel?
ccmcacollister 13 ( +1 | -1 )
no no no Ketch ... No "hammer"! The proper way is to get his autograph on your "GMxyz board", then to bop em on the noggin. Ala Kasparov & his "fan" (you can always look to the Champions for precedent, ja ?! ! :)
ccmcacollister 38 ( +1 | -1 )
oh yes ... cascadejames Yes I think that's the ticket. To quote or paraphrase at least, Max Zavanelli; Postal Chess Master/ Investor / & leader of ICCF USA / & selfproclaimed inventor of the half point bye ( from "Chess International" or the ICCF USA announcements, I forget which), 'I wish I'd patent the 1/2 point bye, after I invented it ...' :)))
Of course, he can be a humorous guy too, like all Postal Chess Master I suppose ...
but think of the $$$ there!
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ganstaman 26 ( +1 | -1 )
Yeah, I don't understand this either. If it's good enough, the name will catch on. But I don't see what a copyright does. As far as I know, you can't copyright games (only the annotations to games). And a move? You can't keep others from playing it, so what exactly is accomplished?
ccmcacollister 67 ( +1 | -1 )
ganstaman ... That's exactly how I've always heard it to be, as well. Originally heard it in the 70's or 80's I think, and not aware of any changes to it specifically ... tho I wonder if any 'intellectual property' concept might change it. I can't see how tho, really. Especially in a case like this where any MOVE is already in the public domain.
btw ketchuplover Per your original question ... I'm no expert on it, but always heard that the way to copyright something in the USA at least, is just to publish and advise there that copyrights are claimed. Anyone know differently? Obviously, this is MUCH simpler than if one were to try to PATENT something(for SURE!!), or Register a Trademark (I'd guess ?!).
cascadejames 74 ( +1 | -1 )
Copyright ccmcacollister,
Assuming that the work is of a type that can be copyrighted (a questionable assumption if you are talking about a particular move in a chess game), the short answer is that in the US, an author of an original work has a copyright automatically when the work is published, but the author's rights are limited. In order to perfect the copyright you also must add a copyright notice (the c inside the circle, the authors name and year of publication) and register the copyright with the Federal government. Failure to add the notice and failure to register will have serious adverse affects on the enforceability and usefulness of the copyright. See an IP lawyer if you are serious about wanting to copyright anything. BTW, I am a lawyer, but not an IP lawyer and this post should not be relied upon for legal advice.
ketchuplover 13 ( +1 | -1 )
screw's a link ->
ionadowman 63 ( +1 | -1 )
I'd be very surprised... ... not to say appalled, if a copyright were possible for this kind of thing. Which is the TN? 5...h6!? It has probably been played a zillion times before and will be played a zillion times in the future.
But I wonder if FIDE, say, has some sort of "naming committee" that assigns names to opening lines, and whether such a committee accepts nominations from the chessplaying world. The "Ketchup Variation" sounds like a very good name for this line... I'll second the nomination!
(Having a chess opening named after one would give a chap considerable social eclat, don'tcha reckon?)
ccmcacollister 76 ( +1 | -1 )
CASCADEJAMES Thanks much! That does all sound very familiar now about the C and info; but I was completely unaware of the Federal Registering. That will be good to know, if I ever do get my Chess Book done ... should I live so long, and Chess still be played then :))
I did put a copyright on my local Chess magazine a couple decades ago, just for good form, since I'd have doubts about anyone taking it and making a bundle of $$$
from my scribblings ...or most Chess related publications in general, unfortunately. In fact, if someone Could do that with something I wrote; rather than litigating it,
MY reaction would be more like "Alright! Go to it; can you cut me in! !?" As they must have some almighty talent in such a case.